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more-moderate-than-thou

I want to interrupt my incessant prattling about Beltane to solicit some opinions. Have you noticed how prevalent is the notion that only centrists are reasoned and sane? How often do you hear someone say "I think both parties are nuts. The only reasonable position is the middle one."

I'm gonna call bullshit on that. I think it's intellectually lazy. What people really mean by this is that the only good opinion is one that has been carefully considered, and that's certainly true, but simply adopting a "moderate" or "middle of the road" position isn't the same thing. It's a cheat, and it's no substitute for actually thinking.

I'll also point out (and you knew this was coming) that I think this is a device used more often by the Right these days. "Fair and Balanced," right? The GOP is the voice of the infallible "center" and those crazies on the Left are insufficiently moderate. This is the single most boldly marketed message coming from the Right these days. The pronouncement of their supreme even-handedness.

I've seen a lot of ads on the Metro lately listing the most extreme circumstances under which abortions occur, and asking if abortion rights have "gone to far." That's just the most disingenuous load of crap. Those people aren't concerned that we've "gone to far". They are simply trying a slight of hand to distract the public from their extreme (yes, extreme) agenda in which no woman has the right to an abortion.

OK, I could go on, but I'm beginning to sort of ramble around the issue here.

Anyone wanna argue with me? I'm truly very interested in contradictory opinions (how moderate of me!) because I am still trying to solidify this concept in my mind. And hearing other peoples' thoughts is one way we liberals inform ourselves, ya see.

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fenriss
May. 9th, 2005 11:23 pm (UTC)
hell, it seems that there are many people on this here livejournal that will mull over what to have for lunch then they would over having an abortion.

OK, you know what? That's uncalled for. I am done with this conversation if you're going to start making ad hominem attacks.

I've had an abortion. It was traumatic, but it was NOT a difficult decision, because for me, at that time, it was the only correct decision. I'll thank you not to judge me for not feeling the least bit guilty about it.

I'm honestly really surprised, because you have always come across as thoughtful and considerate before. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. But if you're going to sit there and tell me (or anyone) how they should feel about a personal decision, I'm gonna call you wrong.

And I'm also gonna call you on it when you set up straw men like: "...but I don't think that saying that someone should be a responsible person when they have sex is bad either." I'm not going to let you get away with implying that my side of the argument is that "irresponsibility is good." You are a very intelligent person. You know that's not what I'm saying, so what gives?

Look, I think of you as better than this. I'm hoping you're just getting emotional here, and that you're not really accusing me and other members of my flist of caring more about a sandwich than a precious unborn child of god, or some shit. I'm going to be really disappointed if I'm wrong.
translucent_eye
May. 10th, 2005 01:58 pm (UTC)
Yes - I agree that this conversation should end because its been taken to a personal, defensive state rather then a discussion of the issues. I was responding to the idea that having an abortion should be a well thought out decision that shouldn't be as easy as someone getting up one morning, strolling to the corner clinic and having an abortion on first visit. Most people would not do that with any other medical decision.

And yes I am informed of the procedure - I have worked in at least two hospitals and the Jones Institute for reproductive health. I've been there for births, and I've been with people after abortions.

And saying that a decision should take some care and concern in making is not saying that you should feel guilty about it.

Just like you should take come care, consideration, concern, research and thought into having a liver transplant - but you would never have accused me of saying someone should feel guilty for having a liver transplant. Please do read what I have wrote.

And on the responsibility point - as I was saying the people pushing "free abortions for all" without a side-by-side message of personal responsibility and education are wrong.
translucent_eye
May. 12th, 2005 07:25 pm (UTC)
Look, I think of you as better than this. I'm hoping you're just getting emotional here, and that you're not really accusing me and other members of my flist of caring more about a sandwich than a precious unborn child of god, or some shit. I'm going to be really disappointed if I'm wrong.

btw - I decided to come back after a day or two and read this, and I realized that one thing was not clear, which is in the quote:

hell, it seems that there are many people on this here livejournal that will mull over what to have for lunch then they would over having an abortion.

I was not talking about YOUR livejournal, but rather livejournal as a whole. I guess it would in fact be my friends list that I would be talking about. Just realize that with this here livejournal you may have thought I was talking specifically about yours.



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