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Just in case any of you are feeling too loyal to the original Battlestar Galactica to check out the new series (although I cannot for the life of imagine why that would be, as the original was so cheesy that I avoided it as a 10 year-old) I give you the original Starbuck, whimpering about the new Starbuck being recast as a woman. Washed up, bigoted asshat.

The new Starbuck, portrayed by the lovely Katee Sackhoff? Hot as hell. And a much more interesting take on the character, too boot.

I'll be over here, handing out babies, as we women do. Jebus.

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minniethemoocha
Jan. 18th, 2005 06:45 pm (UTC)
I'll be handing babies out too, I guess, considering I don't want to keep any!
ericrowe
Jan. 18th, 2005 06:47 pm (UTC)
Wow, wottan utter tool. Almost rivals the time cube guy for sheer frothery...
avahgdu
Jan. 18th, 2005 06:58 pm (UTC)
Ok, I loved the original series. I have it on dvd. I have not watched the new, cause it does not interest me. I am not anti remake, I loved the 90's Dark Shadows and was pissed it got canceled so quickly, this one just does not grab me.

But...handing out babies? And was that actually published somewhere? Cause my dyslexic ass found so many typos and screw ups it was hard to read in parts.

It's sour grapes! That's what it is. His star has faded, and he is just being pissy. 'Hand out babies.' sheesh
fenriss
Jan. 19th, 2005 12:04 am (UTC)
Sorry to be so unkind toward the original series. I'm just cheesed off, is all :)
chadu
Jan. 18th, 2005 07:06 pm (UTC)
I feel bad for Benedict.

From what I recall, Hatch had looped him in somehow on his own attempt to bring BG back. So, I'm sure part of this textual car-wreck is tied up in that (akin to Adam West's issues with the first Batman movie).

Also, he's making somewhat valid points about the business end of television -- all entertainment, really. The seventies and eighties were unbelievable welcoming to new ideas in films and TVs: creators could fight the suits and still win. Not so today (cf. Crusade, Greg the Bunny, Firefly).

Unfortunately, these two issues have come and twisted themselves together in his brain. Add to it what he sees as a symbolic castration: read between the lines of his post -- he was Starbuck, he was Faceman -- and you can see quite easily that he GREATLY identifies with the character(s). Changing Starbuck's sex implies there was something wrong with not just his portrayal of the character, but him. (And there may be even further connections to Adam West's situation here, too, in overidentification with a character.)

It's obvious he's hurt and angry -- at least he was last year when he wrote this.

None of this excuses him for asshattery or justifies it; quite the contrary. His comments regarding "Stardoe" (ach) are so far beyond the pale that it's pitiable.

And I do pity him, alongside being pissed at him for his comments.

CU
fenriss
Jan. 19th, 2005 12:18 am (UTC)
Nope. Sorry. The fact that he has a point about the current state of the entertainment industry does nothing to mitigate my rancor. He's angry at the "suits"? Who the fuck does he think funded and supported his heroes, Reagan and Thatcher? Is he anti-authoritarian, or is he a backward, chauvinistic neanderthal? He can't be both.

And if he sees this as a "symbolic castration" then it follows that he buys into the notion of women as castrated men. Therefore he's a throwback. Therefore he deserves his obscurity.

Sorry, Chad. I hope you realize that I don't mean to rail at you. I respect your feelings in the matter, but I am unwilling to let him off the hook, even a little.
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mercurialgirl
Jan. 18th, 2005 07:13 pm (UTC)
1. Yes, new Starbuck is very watch-worthy.

2. I am in a state of serious covet over your icon.

3. Distance reiki shall commence as soon as I can get my hands on an appropriate proxy. (I love the fact that superpowers often involve teddy bears :>)
fenriss
Jan. 19th, 2005 12:19 am (UTC)
*smooch* Thank you, honey.

And as far as the icon goes, you have far, far mightier Photoshopfu than I could aspire to :)
_blackjack_
Jan. 18th, 2005 07:15 pm (UTC)
I've only seen the cut-for-NBC version of the miniseries, and while it has it's weak spots, it is certainly better than the old Mormons-In-Space version seems today. It isn't as good as the original series SEEMED when I was 6, but that isn't anybody's fault.

(Seeing Zoic's CGI for Galactica makes me miss Firefly even more.)

And how DARE he invoke Katharine Hepburn in the midst of he neanderthalic rant? She was being decisive, bold, angry as hell and puffing cigars when all he could suck was a pacifier.

PS: speaking as someone know to smoke cigars and flirt with girls (which, come to think of it, so are you), I'm pretty sure it isn't criminal...
fenriss
Jan. 19th, 2005 12:22 am (UTC)
I was thinking about mentioning his use of the Name of Kate as well, but you put it much better than I would have.
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jgcr
Jan. 18th, 2005 07:22 pm (UTC)
I . . . wow. If someone's handing out free babies, kin I have one?

Also, the new Starbuck is teh hottest. So says me.
fenriss
Jan. 19th, 2005 12:30 am (UTC)
An august endorsement indeed! :)
surreallis
Jan. 18th, 2005 09:03 pm (UTC)
BG was my fave show as a kid, but I never did see a lot of redeeming qualities in Starbuck. Apollo was my man. (In as much as you could have a 'man' when you're 10)

That article though. Whoa. DB is coming off as waaay bitter. I know it's been a long time since he's been beefcake for America, but cripes. It's not like a remake will completely invalidate his own portrayal.
fenriss
Jan. 19th, 2005 12:38 am (UTC)
And, as you may be aware, the original Apollo is *in* the remake, so it's fair to say he's behind the new interpretation!

Gah. I just get worked up when people are so mean-spiritedly stupid. Sorry I dissed the original. Confession: I loved Star Trek TOS. It doesn't get any cheesier than that :)
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rimrender
Jan. 18th, 2005 09:20 pm (UTC)
All hail the gang that can't shoot straight!
But boy they can crash like a champ.

Yes, new Star buck is a big improvement.
At least ther is no cyborg monkey.
fenriss
Jan. 19th, 2005 12:38 am (UTC)
Hee. Cyborg monkey!
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elvenfrost
Jan. 19th, 2005 07:05 am (UTC)
The evil Fred icon is the best I've ever seen! I want one!
fenriss
Jan. 19th, 2005 11:51 am (UTC)
I'm so glad you like it! You are welcome to steal it if you like. I don't mind sharing it.
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