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Ragging on Facebook again

I owe LiveJournal a sincere apology for forsaking it for Facebook. That horrible place makes me miserable all the time. I seriously can't look at my FB feed without either seeing something I can't un-see, or getting my hackles up because of someone's Tea Party attitude, or ending up inadvertently fighting with someone. But, see, that's where everyone *is*. I can't help that that's where everyone spends all their time these days.

Dammit. I miss this place. I suppose I perpetuate the problem by not spending my social networking time here, but I just despair of the "social" part of it. There's hardly anyone who regularly reads LJ anymore, and it's depressing to feel like you're howling into a void. But at least, I guess, I could use it for the "journal" part. I kept a paper journal for many years, and never minded that nobody else read it.

Anyway. I'm really sorry, LiveJournal. You are infinitely superior to Facebook, for what it's worth.


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Nov. 27th, 2013 07:27 pm (UTC)
I've seen plenty of LJ Drama back in the day though. I think it's just easier to pick and choose what people you read and post to here.

I've hidden quite a few people on FB. It's depressing to find out what some casual acquaintances and old friends think about certain issues, but then - they probably always did, it's just easier to avoid knowing IRL.
Nov. 27th, 2013 07:36 pm (UTC)
I think the longer form of LJ and, yes, the filtering system allows for a somewhat more civil environment. There certainly was some drama, but honestly, I can't remember ever being involved in any. Whereas on FB, I can't seem to look at it without getting upset *ever*.
Nov. 27th, 2013 07:54 pm (UTC)
Maybe the drama was more around the groups.

On the one hand, I feel like only surrounding yourself with people who agree with you is limiting and bad for society. On the other hand...I just don't have the energy to argue. I've got a small group of people I can really talk to/with and the rest are just social friends.
Nov. 27th, 2013 07:57 pm (UTC)
It actually has very little to do with the "people I agree with" thing. In fact, the few Republicans I am friends with rarely ruffle my feathers. They tend to behave themselves pretty well. It's just rude, nasty behavior from some people, usually ones with whom I share most of my political views in common.
Nov. 28th, 2013 04:56 am (UTC)
Yes, it is unfortunately possible to be an asshole while holding political beliefs of many types. :-(
Nov. 27th, 2013 07:27 pm (UTC)
I check here regularly too, although mostly lurking and reading, for what that's worth. Tumblr is kind of neat too, with lots of neat and cute pictures - in my feed, at least, along with the Pacific Rim and Super-Husbands (Steve/Tony) fanfic links.

Back over on Facebook, I've started either unfriending (in extreme cases), or, if I want to keep folks such as relatives on my friends list so I can communicate with them at will or check how they're doing, just removing from my newsfeed if their posts are full of grossness or Tea Party stuff or whatever. There's still a lot of blah stuff I just scroll through to check for actual interesting posts, even so, but it seems to keep the blood pressure down.
Nov. 27th, 2013 07:39 pm (UTC)
Nah, Tumblr doesn't appeal to me, because there's no room for discourse. All you can do is "repost." And I'm not really in it for the images, which seems like just about all it's good for.

And the thing is, my FB distress is just so *constant.* It seems like every single time I poke my head in, something awful happens. T do not think that removing individuals from my feed will fix the problem.
Nov. 28th, 2013 04:57 am (UTC)
I have found ways to have discourse on Tumblr, amazingly! It works somewhat differently than LJ, but it does work.
Nov. 28th, 2013 04:57 am (UTC)
That's me, too - Tumblr and LJ, for the most part, with a healthy dose of Twitter.
Nov. 27th, 2013 07:33 pm (UTC)
FWIW, I still check LJ at least once a day, if not more.

It has slowed down quite a bit though.
Nov. 27th, 2013 07:41 pm (UTC)
Good to know! Thanks.
Nov. 27th, 2013 07:36 pm (UTC)
dat feel
I am in mostly the same boat. There's been plenty of LJ drama but FB drama seems so much faster and hard to contain. I kind of half abandoned here when almost nobody talked any more ( <10 out of hundreds.) But if you write, I would try to read it (and try to remember how to set reminders here)

Edited at 2013-11-27 07:37 pm (UTC)
Nov. 27th, 2013 07:41 pm (UTC)
Re: dat feel
Thanks, Casey. I think I probably will try to write here more often. I appreciate you speaking up, and that you might come around and read my posts! You're very kind.
Nov. 27th, 2013 08:19 pm (UTC)
I still read and comment on LJ, mostly during the day and mostly during the week. I just haven't felt motivated to post, mostly because I feel like it should be something profound or insightful.

I pared down FB a while back mostly because I didn't feel like sharing everything with people who either weren't family or who probably wouldn't care if I fell off the face of the earth. I kept family and people I either hang out with IRL or would like hanging out with IRL. If acquaintances are curious about what I'm doing I figure they can follow the public FB page for the business.
Nov. 27th, 2013 08:27 pm (UTC)
I prefer it here too.
Nov. 27th, 2013 08:38 pm (UTC)
Run out of LJ
I left live journal for Facebook because of a similar reason you list here, howling into a void. I felt isolated and sad. I see it as a pick your poison. There are participants that can make either experience problematic and sometimes the worst qualities of behavior are often revealed.
Nov. 27th, 2013 09:28 pm (UTC)
"Hide" everyone who's being rude or nasty, or who's posting things you don't want to see. Then give it a little time and see if you like the new smaller venue or still want to leave altogether.

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Nov. 28th, 2013 04:59 am (UTC)
Re: I'm still here.
I don't always reply to your posts, but I always read them.
Nov. 28th, 2013 01:07 am (UTC)
My attitude towards Facebook is, it's my place. If I don't like what I see on it, I just unfriend people. They're not actually not my friends anymore, I'm just choosing to use a tool without them. I also dropped a couple of time-suck communities that lead to a lot of scrapping and angst, even though they were allegedly all lovey people who are awesome and constantly giving internet hugs.

I spend a lot less time on FB as a result, and am happier for it.
Nov. 28th, 2013 03:08 am (UTC)
Still out here.. even if I post rarely. I do read every post and often comment. Hugs.
Nov. 28th, 2013 04:59 am (UTC)
I'm here and I check just about every day. Like others, however, I'm more a lurker than a poster these days, for a variety of reasons.
Nov. 28th, 2013 05:47 am (UTC)
I read here all the time. I rarely _respond_, but the void has ears, at least. *HUG*
Nov. 28th, 2013 05:10 pm (UTC)
My issue with Facebook, apart from their incessant desire to keep deleting my account due to pseudonyms (I won't use my real name on the internet) is the fact that it's just a collection. You get an account, then your whole purpose seems to be to collect friends you don't care about. You can't actually blog there because nobody reads more than 144 characters. And, while you can have drama on LJ, it's way way more prevalent on Facebook.

I have yet to figure out a purpose to Facebook. People keep saying, "but it's the only way to keep in contact with person X". Yeah? How about email? Phone? Texting? If I have something to say to someone, I just to one of the three things above.

"But," They say, "What if you need to tell a whole group of people something?"

I rarely do. But if I need to tell a whole group of people I care about something important, CC them on an email. Really.

"I can keep in touch with high school friends!"

I have no desire for doing that. I left high school for a reason, and anyone from that era in my life I cared about would have my phone number and email.

So what is Facebook for?
Nov. 29th, 2013 04:55 pm (UTC)
I've been using Facebook mostly for posting links, and unfortunately for discovering that a lot of friends-of-friends are really terrible people. I read LJ every day, and it's kind of sad that I no longer have to go back more than skip=25 to run out of new posts, and usually everything new fits on a single page. Of course I'm not helping much myself because I don't post much here either, so...
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