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It's hopelessly maudlin of me, but I love Christmas! I can't get enough pine smell, red velvet, mulling spices or Dickens. I love nearly everything about the holiday, despite being a Pagan raised by semi-Buddhist atheists.

I always acknowledge Yule, like a good Wiccan. I burn sage on the night of the solstice, and I attend circle if I'm in town. But I cling to the traditions of Christmas trees and Santa Claus and "Silent Night" even though I'm an unbeliever.

Am I a total dork, or is anyone with me on this?


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Nov. 29th, 2001 06:51 am (UTC)
Testify, sister!
I am so with you on this! I love Christmas too, and I don't care who knows it.

The way I see it (as a former Christian, current Agnostic) there's Christian Christmas and </i>American</i> Christmas. I celebrate American Christmas. Trees, Santa, presents, Charlie Brown (which always makes me cry *sniff*) and the whole lot of it.

BTW, even if you can't make my party you have to come by my place sometime before Christmas. Remember my crazy neighbor's lights last year? They've addedMORE STUFF including a gingerbread house that's got to be 3 feet tall!
Nov. 29th, 2001 07:38 am (UTC)
[Cynthia "the Christmas junkie" writes:]

Oh, I AM NOT ALONE!!! I absolutely LOVE Christmas too! I agree with Lori on the *American Christmas* stance...it's wonderful. I love all of it from the hideous allure of retro plasticy cheese (mmmm, space aged silver trees covered with demonic, yet cute, green plastic elves) to the wonderful simplicity of unadored pine boughs and candles. AND it's one of those PIE holidays...and I have such cute little holiday aprons. It's the sucky PEOPLE on this planet that take something and twist it into a big *gotta buy that toy or I'm gonna DIE* event. The masses always mess things up. Maybe if enough stupid people ACTUALLY croaked when they couldn't find that hot new *gotta-have*...this world WOULD be a nicer place. Oh, wait...that's not very Christmasy of me.

On the other hand...it does sorta make me smile that the hot toys this year are completely denounced by the religious right doofs. GO Harry Potter!!!
Nov. 29th, 2001 09:21 am (UTC)
I've celebrated Yule as a religious holiday (candles, reverence) for 12 years (I guess this'll be the 13th, now that I think of it!) but never stopped celebrating Christmas as a *secular* holiday . . . I, too, love the tree, and the decorations, and jingly bells and mistletoe and snow on the ground and red velvet bows and, and, and!!! :)

Kira seems to do quite well with this, I may add.

-- Andi, never a humongo-toy-buyer, but with a *reasonably* nonmaterialistic kid, thank goodness!
Nov. 29th, 2001 10:44 am (UTC)
I'm with you. Christmas smells good.
Nov. 29th, 2001 11:51 am (UTC)
ho ho ho baby jesus
All us non-Christian Christmas lovers should keep in mind that it started out as a pagan holiday. I mean, hello, Jesus was born in July! So, even though to many it is about religion, and to many more, it about commercialism...to us it is about good friends, good food (including the all-important pie), good smells and good cheer.

I can't think of who I would rather spend christmastime around than all my kooky friends and my even kookier family, celebrating life and love, and everyone else can make of it what they will, but it doesn't spoil my christmas.

Nov. 29th, 2001 04:00 pm (UTC)
I love it, too. Peppermint ice cream and non-blinky lights and my family's wacky decor. We have a little ceramic creche I made when I was 7 and over the years a menagerie of odd creatures has grown around it. I put in the tiny pink rubber dinosaur peeking into the manger one year, and the giant sheep, and Sarah supplied the big scary clay snowman, which my mother calls "The Angel of the Lord" standing guard....

Cynthia's Christmas decorations ROCK. I will never forget the chorus line of topless Jingle-Bell Barbies with star stickers pasted over their tits.
Nov. 29th, 2001 09:06 pm (UTC)
I agree
I feel the same way. However, for me (like you, it seems) it's the secular aspects I'm drawn to rather than the whole Jesus-in-the-stable thing.

Did you know that Lithuanians have what is more or less a Samhain ceremony on Xmas Eve? I'm starting to learn about the Lithuanian pagan calendar and it's interesting because it's somewhat different (and because most of the ceremonies were slapped on to the Xian ones).

Nov. 30th, 2001 06:15 am (UTC)
Re: I agree
Did you happen to see this article, Nikki? It's from the Baltic Times, which I can't seem to load right now...


Here's the excerpt from the Wren's Nest:

Lithuanian Pagans Want Status of Traditional Religion
Sunday, 11/25/2001 - 10:06:18 (est)

Author: Rokas M. Tracevskis, Vilnius
Source: The Baltic Times
WitchVox ID: 3614

Four Lithuanian MPs belonging to the ruling Social Liberal and the opposition Liberal factions have proposed giving pagans the status of a traditional religious community in Lithuania. The status of traditional religion guarantees state financial support. Presently nine religions have been granted this status.

The most active supporter of the pagans' rights is Social Liberal MP Gediminas Jakavonis, himself a practicing pagan and member of the ancient Balts' religious community, Romuva.

"We have some 2,000 to 3,000 members," he told The Baltic Times. This makes Romuva Lithuania's biggest group of pagans. He said that meant paganism has more followers than many small traditional churches that may present exaggerated figures about their members.
Nov. 30th, 2001 08:42 am (UTC)
Re: I agree
Wow, that's really great to read! No, I hadn't read it. The only thing I read outside of the various Lithuanian magazines we get was a rather nasty, snippy article about Lithuanian Pagans from Starhawk in which she said, "Well, they SAY they have this old tradition, but they're OBVIOUSLY just like the rest of us", essentially. Erm, no...even at the turn of the century (1899-1900) there were practicing Pagans documented in Lithuania. I thought a bit less of her after reading that, because she was SO snippy and mean about the Lithuanian pagans!
Dec. 1st, 2001 06:16 am (UTC)
Yes, yes, yes!
I am so surrounded by people who are sick of all the holiday crap, but give me the scent of pine, the Albert Finney version of "Scrooge", the feeling of stillness in the air and the lights which sparkle in the fading day.

It is SO good to know I am not alone!!

Dec. 4th, 2001 04:07 am (UTC)
Bah, humbug...
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