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Despite my general disapproval of relying on the scale... I've been getting on the scale. Sigh. My weight seems to be holding precisely steady.

Now, on week days I eat like a monk (almost literally, since I've developed an interest in cookbooks by head chefs at Buddhist monasteries lately). Weekends, however, are a lot harder. I've had a couple pasta-oriented indiscretions in the last 6 weeks, but I'd hate to think that they were enough to bring my weight loss to a total halt.

I'm comforting myself with the fact that I have always put on muscle mass freakishly quickly. My arms already feel a bit harder, and my jeans are fitting better. So maybe muscle weight accounts for the number on the scale.

Whatever. I'm striving to eat well, and keep moving. What else can one do? In the final analysis, that's all there is.

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telie13
Aug. 25th, 2005 04:36 pm (UTC)
well...
don't weigh yourself on the gym scale, that doesn't work.

get a digital scale, of your own, and weigh yourself once a week, right when you wake up, after you've used the facilities, with nothing on.

Thats the way to get the best reading on your weight. instead of doing it on different scales at different times.

i have two scales, one of which is always 1.5 lbs greater than the other, no matter what I do to it :)

fenriss
Aug. 25th, 2005 05:34 pm (UTC)
Re: well...
I'll give that some thought. I haven't owned a scale in my entire adult life, so it's a little intimidating to think about.
telie13
Aug. 25th, 2005 05:41 pm (UTC)
Re: well...
(aside, that day i saw you in the golds, you were weighing yourself on the ladies locker room scale and i paused briefly, wanting to say this to you and hi in general then but wasn't sure you'd remember me and didn't want to intrude on what any woman can see is a stressful moment)

i resisted too but it is what made the difference to me.

just get a regular old digital scale and don't automatically think its going to discourage you. i got one and it sucked at first but then when i started working out and eating right i liked it because i would enjoy watching it go down (almost 40 lbs but i've put 7 of them back on, have 17 then to go before i'm goal).

heres the thing, the scales at the gym are old, beat to shit, and used 100s of times a day. they need to be calibrated and maintained to give you a proper reading, if they aren't you are always going to get a screwy number.

and it is just a number :0)
joanarkham
Aug. 25th, 2005 05:42 pm (UTC)
Re: well...
The scale at that Gold's is CRAP. By like, 15 pounds.

I went through 3 scales before finding one I like. It's digital, and does a body fat % too.
sparkymonster
Aug. 25th, 2005 06:51 pm (UTC)
Re: well...
I would suggest not buying a scale or, if you need the numbers, buy one and store it in the closet or some place out of the way. Then, weigh yourself weekly not daily. I refuse to own a scale because it makes me crazy about my wegiht.
peregrin8
Aug. 25th, 2005 04:42 pm (UTC)
this is why you should not get on the scale :-)

If your jeans are fitting better, then it sounds like you are swapping lighter fat for heavier muscle. So that is good!

btw, I have been getting together songs for that exercise CD; I think I will burn it next week. (Feel the burn!)
fenriss
Aug. 25th, 2005 05:35 pm (UTC)
Yay, exercise CD! Thanks so much.
moonlit_page
Aug. 25th, 2005 05:15 pm (UTC)
if pasta is an indiscretion and you're doing low carb, then yes, anything over your allotted 20-30 daily carbs will pull you out of ketosis for 3-4 days. you will not lose, and will gain, if you are doing a low carb diet. inevitably, you will eat pasta again sometime in your life. so understand, a diet that excises pasta is not a diet whose results will last. if you are not doing a low carb diet but are just watching your flour intake, an increase in exercise at which your heart rate goes higher than 160 for half an hour or more should counteract that.
love, roo
fenriss
Aug. 25th, 2005 05:40 pm (UTC)
Hiya, Roo! Hope you're well.

Nope, I'm not on a diet that does the tightly restricted carbs or ketosis thing. My H and I have been doing the South Beach diet, but that doesn't have you count carbs. Most recently, we are just sort of loosely following that diet's principles, and are trying to avoid sugar, white flour and saturated fats. It's just that I blew it and had manicotti last Sunday. Whoops :)

I figure, as long as I try to stick mostly with my green veggies, beans, tofu and low fat dairy regimen, and try to keep even those foods pretty moderate, I ought to be OK. Plus the personal trainer, who regularly kicks my ass super hard!
moonlit_page
Aug. 25th, 2005 05:45 pm (UTC)
I've read both; it really truly is the same diet, even though South Beach swears up and down that it's different from Atkins, compare menus and carb intake, it's the same. But you're absolutely right -- transfats, white sugar and flour, those are the devil. Don't beat yourself up over manicotti, however. You're eating healthy, and if you're exercising, it's slow going, but it's the best way! You are awesome! You inspire me!
_blackjack_
Aug. 25th, 2005 06:08 pm (UTC)
I don't think one should ever consider eating something as "blowing it". Hell, even my rather extreme diet is entirely voluntary and prone to ammendment if there is curry involved. There is nothing "wrong" with eating anything that isn't outright poisonous. And even that's OK once in a while *hic*. It isn't a MORAL issue. Even eating an utterly unhealthful diet isn't "wrong", even if it's ill-advised.

Don't sweat the details. It's the long-term running averages that count. If you're not eating a big tray of manicotti every day, it's not an issue.
aghrivaine
Aug. 25th, 2005 06:04 pm (UTC)
My sister is the head chef at a Buddhist monastery. She said she's the only one who's ever lost weight in the job. So I wouldn't take it as gospel that a Buddhist diet is necessarily one that will lose you weight...
fenriss
Aug. 25th, 2005 06:15 pm (UTC)
I'm really just reading the cookbooks as inspiration for cooking ideas. I'm not actually eating the diets they describe in them, in part because those meals are intended to sustain the monks through long days of physical labor.

One book in particular (the early 1970's Tassajara Cookbook) has been helping me think about food in a much simpler, more fundamental way. It says "radish is radish, cucumber is cucumber" and suggests that we should try to let foods be what they are instead of always striving to alter them to be more to our personal taste. This has been instrumental in getting me to eat foods much closer to their natural state and to rely less on lots of rich sauces and flavoring agents. Which ultimately has to be good for my health, I figure.

I think your sister must have one of the most wonderful jobs in the world. It's a challenge I could never be equal to, in a thousand years.
aghrivaine
Aug. 25th, 2005 06:18 pm (UTC)
Hey, could you send me a list of those cookbooks, for me to send to her? Who knows if she doesn't already have them, but she might appreciate it.

She's got a TOUGH job. The regular monks have to be up at 5AM for meditation and work - she has to be up at 4 to feed them. She's not spared any of the esoteric work in the monastery, but she has more time-intensive duties than the other monks.

Apparently, this is because the previous year she was "dharma coach" which is like, the cushiest job at the temple.
fenriss
Aug. 25th, 2005 07:43 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I understand that the job is pretty brutally hard. Still, it sounds like it would have a lot to recommend it, as well. But I'm not about to sign up. I admire your sister tremendously.

I'm going to post about those books momentarily, since I've had a few folks express interest.
lionsden
Aug. 25th, 2005 06:18 pm (UTC)
Hmm..try to think of the scale as just another fitness tool, and a very flawed one, because it cannot tell the difference between fat and muscle. Even scales with body fat % counts aren't incredibly accurate (just ask vicar). But, either way, that isn't the end-all be-all of your goal. Your goal has more to do with being healthy, yes? Well, the numbers on the scale are a part of that, but more than that, is how you feel. Do you feel more energized? Are you lifting more weight, walking farther, less winded? Wasn't it great to feel the jeans fit better?

Don't let "indiscretions" and scales tell you what your body is/is not doing. Concentrate on what your body can do now (that it couldn't have done 3 months ago). If you can start to think of the scale as a tool, then keep weighing in. But, if the numbers continue to make you worry about "indiscretions" give it a few more weeks with your personal trainer before you weigh in again. You control your body, lovely lady -- the scale does not. :)
fenriss
Aug. 25th, 2005 07:44 pm (UTC)
:) Thanks, hon. I very much appreciate your kind, wise words!
kmhoofnagle
Aug. 25th, 2005 06:39 pm (UTC)
What else can one do?
Take your dimensions and write them down. Do it once a week along with the scale.

You will get a more accurate portrait of your overall body change.
Weight lost: 2 lbs = eh. ok. Could that be 2 lbs water weight?
Waist size shrunk: 2 inches = Water weight or no, that's some concrete goodness.

Silly seamstress, no one should have to tell you this one.
fenriss
Aug. 25th, 2005 07:44 pm (UTC)
Re: What else can one do?
You're right, of course. But I'm almost as afraid of the tape measure as the scale, for some reason.
sparkymonster
Aug. 25th, 2005 06:50 pm (UTC)
What cookbooks specifically are you cooking from? They sound intriguing.

Personally, the number on the scale tends to be random when I'm exercising more. I also develop muscle mass fairly fast. I go by how my jeans fit. Pick a pair as the standard measurement and use that. I've had times where I've in theory gained a pound or two, but lost mass off my midseciton.
fenriss
Aug. 25th, 2005 07:45 pm (UTC)
Am posting about the cookbooks momentarily. Thet're pretty nifty.

Thanks for the jeans suggestion. I might try that :)
bhanfhlaith
Aug. 26th, 2005 02:01 am (UTC)
Three things, hon.

[1] Do not get fixated on "numbers" (ie: inches, pounds). That will stress you out. Which leads to #2.
[2] Stress and worries screw up even the most rigid eating styles (don't want to say diet). It shuts down your body.
[3] Acknowledge and laud what you do that is healthy and right even if the numbers hate you. Are you eating better? Do you feel any better? Don't lose sight of other victories.

Remember, any "Backsliding" is not a failure. It's just an interruption to your getting back on the horse.
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